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[Catching up on old Politech threads and back email this evening... Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/p-04303.html --Declan] --- Subject: RE: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:59:37 -0600 From: "Harvey Silverglate" <has@silverglategood.com> To: <declan@well.com> This story, which does not surprise me, proves the sanity of my long-standing proposal for reducing police abuse: Establish a system whereby 40% or so of the members of a police force are civilians trained to do the job but whose tenure is only 5 years. Not being "lifers," these folks would maintain a "civilian mentality" and would serve to "civilianize" the police force. Had there been, for example, a substantial number of such civilian cops in the precinct the night Abner Luima was pulled in, he would never have been brutalized, because the civilians would have been a virtual "Fifth Column" and blown the whistle -- no "blue wall of silence." It's the reason we'd be safer with a draft military rather than an all-professional volunteer force of lifers. Declan Harvey A. Silverglate Silverglate & Good 83 Atlantic Avenue Boston, MA 02110 Ofc. tel. 617/523-5933 --- From: "Matt Del Vecchio" <mdelvecchio@visi.com> To: <declan@well.com>, <politech@politechbot.com> Subject: RE: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:03:30 -0600 declan, heres an update to that story, as well as a (free) link to the video. http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/local_news/article/0,1406,KNS_347_1660897,00.html Matt Del Vecchio --- To: declan@well.com From: DDeKok@patriot-news.com Subject: (SPAM?) Re: FC: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:38:36 -0500 Judging by this website, it appears the Smoaks veered into some Southern gothic nightmare... http://www.putnampit.com/pithome.htm --- From: "Matt Del Vecchio" <mdelvecchio@visi.com> To: <declan@well.com>, <politech@politechbot.com> Subject: RE: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:06:31 -0600 declan, also, heres a link to the Cookeville PD info page, w/ phonenumber and website info...let them know how you feel. http://www.usacops.com/tn/p38503/ --- From: "Matt Del Vecchio" <mdelvecchio@visi.com> To: <declan@well.com>, <politech@politechbot.com> Subject: RE: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:19:38 -0600 also, here is the THP contact: http://www.state.tn.us/safety/thp/districtsix.htm --- From: "Ben Serebin" <ben@serebin.com> To: <declan@well.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030109155204.02a16598@mail.well.com> Subject: Re: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:37:34 -0500 Hello Declan, I was speechless after watching the video and immediately e-mailed the reporter with WSMV Nashville to find out how I could donate to a legal fund to assist in taking appropriate actions to fire this officer and insure this never happens again in Tennessee. If you could find this info out just in case I never hear back from her, I and I'm sure many others would appreciate it. Fucking police officer... I wonder if he would like getting shot point-blank in the head in front of his family. -Ben --- From: "Ben Serebin" <ben@serebin.com> To: <dave@farber.net> Cc: <declan@well.com> References: <BA4351EF.2E3D2%dave@farber.net> Subject: Re: [IP] stay clear of Tennessee -- Police surveillancecam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Hello Dave and Declan, I can't explain how outraged I am.... I even contacted the reporter within Nashville to find out about starting a legal fund. I strongly recommend people contact the following individuals and depts and make a call for action. TN Governor Don Sundquist dsundquist@mail.state.tn.us Dept. of Safety Email.Safety@state.tn.us & jscott3@mail.state.tn.us (Commissioner) AG of TN sflair@mail.state.tn.us (Paul Summers) Governor's Highway Safety Office art.victorine@state.tn.us (Director) & joe.sutton@state.tn.us (Occupant Protection Coordinator) -Ben --- From: Steve Mann <mann@eecg.toronto.edu> Message-Id: <200301100931.h0A9VYCh019147@genesis.eecg.toronto.edu> Subject: Re: FC: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing To: declan@well.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 04:31:34 -0500 (EST) The CNN site says "To watch the video you must be a subscriber". That raises an important question: Who owns police video? If the taxpayers own it, it should be freesource. Another reasonable ownership criteria would be Subjectrights (http://wearcam.org/subjectrights.htm) But selling it online like this smacks of Piracy (in the original sense of the word Piracy, as in "Piracy and Privateering") and profit from someone's misfortune. --- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:22:56 -0500 From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk@firemountain.net> To: Dave Farber <dave@farber.net> Cc: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> Subject: Re: [IP] stay clear of Tennessee -- Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Like many people, I'm sickened and outraged by this. I would fully support the death penalty for this murderer: in fact, I believe justice would be best served by having his family handcuffed, forced to kneel, and watch as he's killed with a shotgun blast to the face -- and the whole thing should be broadcast on CNN. ---Rsk --- From: "Chad W. DIdier" <cdidier@cdsupportservices.com> To: <declan@well.com> Subject: RE: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:56:38 -0500 Organization: C.D. Support Services >[Note the family had committed no crime and were stopped erroneously in the >first place... (How many hardened criminals travel with their family and, >in a second car, the grandparents?) --Declan] This is the major problem our police have in handling any citizen. They're training is so militarized as to prevent their common sense from prevailing in these situations. It a law enforcer's eyes we are all guilty when his training is set loose upon us. --- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:03:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: FC: Police surveillance cam works: Shows cop brutality, dog-killing (CONFIDENTIAL) To: declan@well.com Declan, If your readers would like to make their voice heard over this outrage, they can write to: Robert E. Terry, Chief of Police Cookeville Police Department Public Safety Building 10 E. Broad Street Cookeville, TN 38501 And email the governor of TN: Governor Don Sundquist dsundquist@mail.state.tn.us The cop's name is officer Eric Hall of the Cookeville, TN, police dept. --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ Recent CNET News.com articles: http://news.search.com/search?q=declan -------------------------------------------------------------------------