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More on House Judiciary voting today on human cloning ban

I've placed Todd's paper here:



To: declan@well.com
cc: politech@politechbot.com
Subject: Re: FC: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed.
In-reply-to: <>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:46:47 -0800
From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>

What does cloning have to do with interstate commerce, Declan?
Congress doesn't have the power to regulate medicine or research
inside a single state.

Congress is doing its usual unconstitutional idiocy here.  I guess by
sufficient repetition they have gotten the public used to the idea
that every Congress and every Congressman is going to violate the
Constitution dozens of times in every session.  But it galls me; I
think the document has some value still left in it, as a blueprint
for a free society.



From: Todd Dipaola <TDipaola@kirschfoundation.org>
To: "'declan@well.com'" <declan@well.com>
Subject: RE: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed.
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:21:30 -0800


I work for a foundation that advocates strongly for medical research and has
been heavily involved in the debates on stem cells and therapeutic cloning.
The information sent out earlier today was very misleading as to the effects
of the Weldon bill on scientific research in this country.

I have attached a side by side comparison of the Rep. Weldon's bill and the
alternative bills/amendments proposed by the scientific community and
patient advocates. It outlines the devastating effect of H.R. 534
legislation on scientific progress toward cures for the nearly 100 million
Americans who suffer from devastating diseases and conditions, including
juvenile diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, cancer and
spinal cord injury.

You readers can learn more about the issue and why we can outlaw human
cloning without impeding scientific research into lifesaving cures at

Thank you,

Todd J. Dipaola
Public Policy Associate
Steven and Michele Kirsch Foundation
"Effecting Change Through Strategic Giving and Advocacy"


Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:13:25 -0500
From: Nick Bretagna <onemug@bellsouth.net>
Reply-To: afn41391@afn.org
To: declan@well.com
Subject: Re: FC: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed.

This law serves no purpose.

It will do nothing whatsoever to prevent -- or even slow  -- actual human 
cloning. There were laws against transplantation experiments -- the result? 
The first transplants occurred in other nations.

The same will happen in this case. As a result of this, though, it will 
just be about 5 to 10 years longer before the "average guy" gets any chance 
of actually taking advantage of whatever benefits this may well provide 
(the rich SOBS will just fly to wherever the cloning is being done and have 
whatever treatments come of it done...)

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