FC: Spam Arrest does appear to be resorting to... spamming

[Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>]

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From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh@hserus.net>
To: <declan@well.com>
Subject: Re: Is Spam Arrest resorting to... spamming?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:04:10 +0530

On Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:06 PM [GMT+0530=IST],
Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> wrote:

 > [Neil has been a reliable contributor to Politech for a while on the
 > topic of spam. But naturally I will give Spam Arrest the right of
 > reply, and forward unedited any response they choose to provide.
 > --Declan]

More than one person has reported receiving this - spamarrest has
apparently sent this letter to _anybody_ who sent mail to a spamarrest
customer.

This repurposing of addresses is blatant optout spam ... none of the
people who sent mail to a spamarrest subscriber should be expected to
receive solicitations from spamarrest.

For what its worth, I was blocking spamarrest's IP as an open relay
(running an antiquated version of CommuniGate Pro) which had relayed
spam to our users, since the past several weeks.

So, none of my users will have got this solicitation from them.

     srs

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rom: Amos Satterlee <asatterlee@inta.org>
To: "'declan@well.com'" <declan@well.com>
Subject: RE: Is Spam Arrest resorting to... spamming?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:00:40 -0500

Yeah, I got one, too. Addressed to our Sys Admin account, which is only a
receive account.

Funny thing is that they didn't send one to my person account. Definitely
dictionary spam.

Amos

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From: David Bolduc <dbolduc@aus.scmplaw.com>
To: "'declan@well.com'" <declan@well.com>
Subject: RE: Is Spam Arrest resorting to... spamming?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:22:34 -0600

Me too.  I have *no* recollection of having sent an email to a SpamArrest
customer, or of visiting the SpamArrest site.

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From: "Brian Durham" <briandurham@mindspring.com>
To: <declan@well.com>
Subject: Re: Is Spam Arrest resorting to... spamming?
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:15:11 -0600

Declan:

I received that email from Spam Arrest Wednesday - same circumstances.

Best,
Brian Durham

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:24:17 -0600
From: Kenneth Loafman <loafman@spamcop.net>
To: declan@well.com
Cc: politech@politechbot.com, support@spamarrest.com, pr@spamarrest.com
Subject: Re: FC: Is Spam Arrest resorting to... spamming?

As a matter of fact they are spamming.  I got one in the mail this 
morning.  I do remember responding to a SpamArrest customer, but that does 
not give SpamArrest itself permission to contact me.

Promptly reported to SpamCop.

...Ken

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